I’m happy to announce the release of VIZZable 2.0.4b for Live 9 and Max 6.1. VIZZable is a suite of video performance plugins for Ableton Live. Version 2 is completely rewritten to to take advantage of the new new features of Max 6.1, specifically Gen. This means all the effects run on the GPU, are really fast and are infact much faster than the standard VIZZIE modules in Max.
Requirements
Ableton Live 9 (32 bit only), Max for Live 6.1
Windows also requires the 32 bit version of quicktime
Live 8 with Max 6 works but is not officially supported by Ableton
Note to syphon users. Due to a bug in Max, I’m not able to bake syphon into these devices. If you’d like to harness syphon, you can by downloading and installing the syphon plugins for Max from here: http://syphon.v002.info/ and using the unfrozen VIEWR and SYPHR devices in the syphonplugs folder included in the VIZZable zip.
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Hi, v2 dosent work with my system ( Xp, Max6, Live9 )
The v1 work good.
any ideas?
can you give me some more details of the problems your facing?
If it’s a crash, there was a windows bug that i squashed about an hour after first releasing VIZZable2. Try redownloading, might fix your prob.
good place to ask for help is the google group linked to above.
bobobob
I’m psyched about this, and these are working well together, but I’m not sure if I’m missing something: Are they incompatible with the first VIZZable patches or the original VIZZY patches? I’m trying to build a SLIDR using the old one but can’t get it to connect. Is this a GL issue?
Thanks for making awesome things!
yes, they’re probably not compatible… but some might be… just no promises. VIZZable 2 uses GL textures (FAST!) while the VIZZable 0.9.* uses jitter matrices.
Eventually I plan to rewrite all the orignal effects.
Working Perfect! Thanks for the update, it`s very usefull.
From Argentina!
This is really cool. Any plans for a 64 bit version? Do you know how I can get a 64 bit version to work?
Currently there are video features of Max that aren’t supported in 64 bit. Also Quicktime performs much better in 32 bit. 64-bit’s main advantage is that it can address more RAM so you won’t actually see any performance benefits unless you’re using a lot of audio tracks and in many cases performance is actually worse (as in the case of video).
I switched back to 32bit and it def made a huge difference. And actually yes my performance was WAY worse. Thanks so much. This is beautiful. I appreciate all that you have done.
hey, i was really really into vizzable 1 on my old computer with 32bit ableton. any plans for 64 bit?
thanks,
dome chomsky
o, wow, sorry, missed the above comment. how oblivious….
Hi Bob
The midigrid is the only imput that works.
The grabber give me chaos with a lot of lines.(V1 works perfeckt)
All effekts freez the input and nothing happens.
I install the newest versions of Ableton Live, Max for Live and Quicktime.
I used Windos Xp.
Mabey you have a idea?
Sorry for my english.
It’s hard to know.
It’s very important that Ableton, Max and Quicktime are all 32-bit so that’s the first thing to check.
The biggest difference between version 1 and version 2 is that version 2 makes much more use of the graphics card so you could try installing the latest drivers for your graphics card.
It might also be a problem with XP so if you have the ability to test Windows 7 that might also be something to try.
Let me know how you go.
All seems to work as expected on non-retina mbp bought in december, running 10.8.3 and Live 9.03, max full version 6.12.
Just sayin’ :))
good to know. thanks for letting me know!
Thank you for your very nice tools Bob.
Very cool plugin set. How would someone save and render a video/music creation using the plugins with Live? Is there a special routing required? (Or is it just a matter of using the normal render to audio/video in Live?)
Thanks and I will send you a donation if this works for rendering audio/video the way I need it too. I appreciate your work.
hi David,
you have a few options depending on your operating system. vizzable has a recordr plugin that will save the output from your viewr. it works but there are better solutions that result in better performance and hence higher framerate.
if you’re on mac, use the viewr from the syphonplugs folder and output to syphonrecorder (see the readme).
if you’re on windows people have had success with fraps.
all of these solutions just give you video, no audio, so a standard workflow would be to record your audio into a spare track in ableton at the same time as recording your video, then bring your video back into arrangement view, line it up and output as usual.
bob
So to record the output using Syphon, you would make a new device using jit.gl.syphonclient connected to a jit.vcr ? ‘scuse the noobiness but I came to max not so long ago, with no video background at all…
I just reply to me, myself and I because I hadn’t seen the syphon recorder on the ressource site…
Just made a test with syphon recorder with great results ! As seen by other users, Live often freezes when saving the set for the first time. Well, in fact, not really but it take at least 3 mn for it to properly display the saving window dialog. I think this is related to this silly OS version (I mean 10.8.x …). I would really like to be able to revert to 10.6.
hey,
syphon recorder is in the list of applications on the right here : http://syphon.v002.info/
to record out of vizzable, first install the syphon max extensions (sounds like you’ve done this).
then use the viewr in the syphonplugs folder of VIZZable and click the syphon button.
vizzable should then appear as a source in syphon recorder.
if it doesn’t, please open up the viewr in the editor and see if max is throwing any errors.
cheers,
bob.
Hey,
I cant seem to get the grabber to work??
I have ableton 9, max 6.1, Mac osx lion.
Wont work with my unibrain firewire cam or internal cam?
in the grabber it lists the camera in the bottom drop down box, and IIDC Firewire cam in the top drop down box, have a viewer out that is just black??
When I change to the USB Video class video the green light on the internal cam comes on, but still black on the viewer??
I have a uni project due in 2weeks, been trying to get a Webcam grabber to work for weeks and just cant seem to get it to work :(
If there is anyway you could help I would be eternally gratefull :(
Ben
does the playr or any other input work? can you get the original vizzie grabbr module to work in a blank max or maxforlive patch (right click, paste from clippings)? i did see your other comment re 32bit – the problems you’re seeing are symptomatic of running 64bit so a triple check might be worth while. also try running system update, might be an os issue.
Ableton & max is running as 32 bit..
Hey, thanks for the reply.
When you say running 64 bit, you mean running the 64bit version of ableton/max right?
My laptop is 64bit compatible, but when I open Ableton/max, it states 32bit in the bottom corner….
I havent tried any of the above, will give it a go and let you know.
Hey,
Updated…still no joy :(
Got a max pax with a grab working with the Firewire cam, so really dont know what is happening :(
hmmm. strange. can you click edit on the grabbr module and hit command+m to see if there are any errors in the console. what model is your computer? are max and ableton the latest version?
Hello Bob
Great port to live 9!!
Many thx!
Obviously not all modules from the older release are contained…
Are they working together? I am missing the fx.slider module very much for example. Tried to adapt it myself by copy and pasting it to the fx template module but without success… Is there a simple way to do it?
Is there a in.playr module in the new release, cause i dont see it anywhere?
Greetings
hey gerd,
no, the suite’s been substantially rewritten and isn’t compatible with the earlier version. i do plan to rewrite all the effects eventually.
yes, there’s a playr. it’s now called supaplayr.
bob.
Hello Bob
I’ve seen the supaplayr. But i would like just one simple playr.
I used the one from the old release which seem to work with the new modules cause it has to be in the beginnng of the chain it seems to connect with the other modules. i tried to update the m4l video connect devices in the older ones or just to connect the jit.slide output to the gl.pix.
which gl context do the modules share? as a simple and not necceseraly the most efficent hack: could it work out to put the old matrixes to an gl videoplane or gl slab and then to gl.pix or something like that?
gerd
Hey Gerd
The autoconnect API VIZZable uses is here: http://zealousy.com/outbox/m4l.video.api.v1.0.2.zip
It has a clipping for creating matrix based fx. Alternatively, jit.gl.pix is a good way to turn a matrix into a texture.
The context vizzable uses is dynamic. On load, the effects sends a bang to [s drawquery]. The viewr then responds by sending the context out of [r drawto]. Have a look inside the effect template – this would be a good shell to insert the slidr effect.
Also, jump on the google group if you have any more max related questions:
http://groups.google.com/group/jitterinmax4live-
bob
Hey Bob.
Managed to get it working! for some reason I had to open the edit window in M4L to get it to kick in, plus I removed the macam component in the quicktime folder and rebuilt the scripts etc.
Thanks for all your advice!!
Now I just need to work out how to trigger clips in max for live with RGB!!
good to hear!
re triggering clips with RGB, have a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0nLF0aSjjc
Hey,
Yea, I have seen this and contacted Tom….Hopefully he can share it with me!
:)